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Kaity Corder
04/11/2011 20:13

I found Huyseen's article very interesting. I really enjoyed reading about Kluge's literary works and how although his films receive great attention, his literary pieces fall behind. Huyseen explained the nature of Kluge's literary work in terms of the publics that they apply to and how for many of his readers, both modern and in the time of publication, his writing was difficult to understand or follow. This basically puts Kluge into the category of award winning and acclaimed writers who have wide notoriety yet low readership. Thus, it's easy to see how many people are able to understand and try to digest his concepts through film rather than words.

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Gianna Caserta
04/12/2011 07:59

I really enjoyed Spiegel’s review on Kluge’s literary works. Kluge writes stories in which the subjective dimension has been overlaid by anonymous structures, structures of discourse as much as of social behavior. He writes stories about learning processes that result in death, with the obvious hope that a different type of learning can be realized by the reader. He tells of events and situations whose meaning is difficult to understand to the participants experiencing them. It seems that Kluge's unique versatility as filmmaker and film politician, social theorist and storyteller has hampered rather than enhanced the reception of his literary works.

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04/12/2011 09:51

Hi Kaity, thank you for sharing your ideas on Huyssen's reading of Kluge. The idea of intertexts (that's how these words in the film are called) was part of the aesthetic agenda of the New German Cinema, which Kluge was part of.

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04/12/2011 09:57

Hi Gianna, by Spiegel do you mean the Huyssen article? Just to make that clear...

Thank you for your commentary
which brings to bear the relation between literature and film. I agree with you on your last comment, and I wonder why the films have been more interesting for the general public than his films, which one would think are rather more difficult than the short stories and novels that he has written since the seventies.

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Hwang Marino
04/19/2011 18:57

I read the discussion on Kluge's ideological antiquity. Several people who studied the film commented on what their views were of Kluge's work. Kirchner stated that neither Kluge nor Eisenstein made Marx's ideas more accessible to the general audience and also Eisenstein has different goals than Kluge. Squibb said Eisenstein tried to edit October for a specific deadline, but didn't make it. He then made notes for the film Capital. Blagojevic thought that Kluge's film worked at deepening contemporary historical imagination. Reitz stated that the use of intertitles in the film serves as a reference to Kluge's cinematic history. The film capital is a long compilation of Kluge's own history and medium. The film acts as a path to retrace ideological origins in order to figure if Marx is as central a component to cinema as montage is.

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Zackary Gibbons
04/20/2011 08:19

As a political science major I find discussion of political theory to be intriguing, so I selected to read the Marx and Montage article. The article discussed a number of individuals views on Kluge's work and whether or not his films are a recommitment to the Marxist viewpoint. Kirchner believed that the film did not dilute Marx's ideas in a way which made it more approachable to the lay person. Einstein envisioned something like a Marxian version of Freudian free association, the subtle links between the day to day life and to the source of its production. Both Einstein and Kluge employ ideological antiquity and as such might be seen as outdated but Marx's own feelings about antiquity disagree. The idea of antiquity can help reinvigorate Marx's ideals, energizing the global left.

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04/20/2011 18:41

Thanks for your commentary Zak. What did not seem clear to me is what article are you referring to, since at first you say that you read "Marx and Montage", which is written by American philosopher Fred Jameson, but then you go on to say that Kirchner said etc etc. Which article then are you referring to? On a minor note, Einstein is not the same as Eisenstein.
Best,

G

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satyanarayan
06/24/2012 01:20

Hi
I am linked with a revolutionary group in india. I want the english subtitle of this movie(News from the ideological antiquity). If anyone is having the english subtitles, please mail me at satyakiran2005.nyol@gmail.com

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